Acceptance of Lokeans on Pagan Forums? (pt.2)

Was bouncing about the forums again when I came across a post dated from this Septrember.

The topic of the post was basically about a scholar who said that during the act of Loki throwing the mistletoe twig at Balder, it transformed into a spear - and if this was similar to another myth about the attempted mock sacrifice of King Vikar to Odin, where the twig in play also transforms into a deadly spear too.

All fine and dandy, but I noticed the author of the post is pretty famous on the website for stirring up trouble for the Lokeans, and true to form their opening line was:

 " This isn't another "lets argue about Loki" post. (Though if anyone's up for it, Im always game. ...kidding. Sort of.) "

Now really, the topic of the post didn't exactly call for an argument over how evil Loki is, but yet this person had to go and say this to encourage trouble - again.

I think this is a good example for anyone who says that Lokeans are always the ones who start trouble: Yes, in some cases some 'Lokeans' do start it ...but for most of us, we don't.
 Usually we start getting abuse when we try to point out something in a discussion that we don't really agree with. In most cases it's because they have a vendetta against our god so 'we deserve all the abuse they can dish out'.

Thankfully I noticed that participial thread only got one reply, from another member who's parton deity is Lady Hela. And they said:

" Well, if you take the rock hard poly approach, who do you think taught Loki how do that trick? "

It's always nice to see others within the Rökkatru or Rökkr taking the bull by the horns and showing them that Loki isn't the only trickster within Asgard's walls.

Semi good day

I had a dream last night that my bus driver was being an absolute dick and I had to flag down another bus, who wouldn't tell me how much I was for my fare.

Annnnnd this morning my bus was half an hour late! Normally when I leave my house at 8am, I only have to wait about ten minutes tops for a bus to come up my road. It also means I usually arrive in the town about 8:30am and I can walk into college, buy my breakfast and be outside my class by 8:45am or near enough. I only just managed to get into my class on time.

The best bit is though, that there is this one driver (let's call him Mr Baldy) who I can't stand. He won't give me my single fare into town, he only lets me buy returns or All Day tickets (I'm serious, he wouldn't give me a single no matter what).
Here's how our morning conversations go:

Me: £1.40 to Guild Street please.
Him: *takes my money* Are you a student.
Me: Yes.
Him: *holds hand out* Student Card.
Me: I don't have one yet.
Him: *glare* £1.40. Are you at college?
Me: I am, yes.
Him: Hmm. St. Paul's Street - £1.90.
Me: I don't want to go to St. Paul's Street - I want off at Guild Street!
Him: Fine. You'd better buying a return.
Me: No thanks, just the single.
Him: No, it's cheaper.
Me: No it's not, I just want the single.

But this time I am fuming mad, there's a huge queue behind me, I am running late because of him and I just want a single bloody ticket to Guild Street - I don't want a return fare for £3.60 or to go another street! Just give me what I asked and get me there! And he only does it to me! No one else! They can get their tickets and be in their seats within fifteenth seconds, I have to battle and negotiate before I can get mine. And no, he's not trying to be helpful; he's just trying to waste my time and get more money off me, and becomes more unco-operative the more I don't do what he says and buy the more expensive (and in my case useless) All Day ticket.

Thankfully there's other drivers who are much nicer and give you the right fare, no backchat, with smile. They are the ones who really deserve the 'Thank you!' when you jump off at your stop. I only say it to Mr Baldy because I'm polite. The arsehole.

On the plus side, when I went book hunting I found all three books that I wanted on offer (pick and match, 3 for 2)! Horray!

Downside, my sister just crushed my dream of taking a parapsychology coarse by being an utter kill joy over how I'd never get a job. Even though I'd get a Ph.D out of it and could do other medical or psychological topics after.
Really though, I have less chance of getting a job as a photographer if I stick with this photography coarse: you'd be more likely to get a good job with a degree in a medical/science rather than with a HND in photography, surely?

Not get a good job...who'd want to hire someone with a degree in ghost hunting....Just look at Dr. Ciaran O'Keeffe, my dear sister. I'm sure his woe over having an unusual degree is softened by the sound of fame and money in his pocket. Just sayin'.

Acceptance of Lokeans on Pagan Forums? (not any time soon)

For the better half of seven years since I was introduced to runes, I've never memorised them. Then yesterday I spent the better half of the day copying every rune I could find into my little notebook and writing down meanings, uses and which deities they're associated with.
I hadn't planned on doing that for about three hours, I just came home and found myself grabbing a clean notebook and started writing.


In other news, on one of the pagan forums, there had been a discussion over an acclaimed heathen author and his newest book - the reason for the post was due to his controversial writings of the gods.
Anyways, the other heathens on the site were kicking up a fuss as he had written that Loki was an unsung hero, among other things.

What got me was when one of the senior staff members, who was heathen, really began to rip Loki's name to shreds (bearing in mind that this pagan site had many members of other religions, including Lokeans).
It made me pretty upset, and rather mad, that he would say that the author was an idiot to say Loki was good; he posted that Loki has no good about him at all, is a villain, the disgrace of the whole religion etc.
Now I think that most Lokeans are used to stuff like this, but as I said, this site had hundred of members including Lokeans. If that post had been about an author writing about Wicca, or Flamekeeping, or Kemetic, they would have been a bit more cautious in what they were saying. Even if it was about Kali, they might have watched what they said in case they offend ones who devote themselves to her.
It just seems unfair that although more of people are turning to Loki, he and we are still baring the brunt of the heathens and asatrus wrath.

It just feels unfair and a bit discriminative that while they welcome those who worship other destructive deities, and we're still getting metaphorically lurched where ever we turn.

I would have, if I had been anyone else, written an reply to his post. But I didn't. Contrary to most beliefs, this Lokean doesn't like kicking up a fuss or causing arguments. What would I have said anyway? "Hi there, that comment offended me. Please stop."? Even if he was part of the staff, I'd doubt he'd bottle up his rage about Loki just for me and the others. He probably would have called us out on the subject - "Yes Loki is a distructive god, yes he causes a bit of trouble, yes he causes Ragnarok, but he has got some good about him!" The people on the thread would have laughed in our faces and called us naive and posted more stuff up about him.

This isn't the first time the heathens there have started thread topics to really have at it about Loki. And Lokeans trying to have their say is part of the fun for them to really start getting rude and aggressive. So when the Lokeans start fighting back, the heathen then say "Oh, typical Lokeans, starting trouble."
I should really stop joining pagan sites, those posts just get me all riled up and upset. I spend more effort online being the absolute definition of niceness and politeness to try and do my bit in stopping the 'evil lokean' belief and not getting into online arguments where they could turn on us.

If they can accept Satanists and followers of Kali or other destructive gods, or even death deities like Hela, then why can't they get a grip and accept us? I really don't get the heathens and asatrus sometimes.